• lugal@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      No! We can’t work together with people who want something else just because they call themselves leftists, too

        • lugal@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          There are people I agree with from different leftist traditions, but then again there are people I disagree with on all these traditions, too. I even have overlap with some (lower case) conservative people when it comes to ecological questions

      • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, I’m a leftist, I just think landlords have their place, billionaires are job creators, and if we disrupt the status quo too much the global south might stop giving us resources for nothing- A Great Mind

          • Dewded@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            I think exactly that way and am as left as you can be in the Finnish mainstream party system, with the exception of small sub-1% parties like the Communist Party.

            Landlords & Billionaires = living, breathing taxation waiting to happen

            Even if we were to tax a billionaire by 80%, they would probably still be a billionaire. However, they would also indeed be creating jobs, wealth and sustainable growth. School systems, medicine, hospitals, city infrastructure, job placement programmes, you name it, they fund it.

            Corporate tax is also grossly under-utilized.

            Capitalism isn’t bad if you tax it hard and use the money for the welfare of citizens.

              • Dewded@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 years ago

                I’m answering from the perspective of living in a country with functional democracy, so it’s hard to see the power the wealthy have over it.

                Lobbying and representative campaign funding are more transparent here. No party has majority seats alone, coalition governments are a necessity. Legislation is consensus driven.

                Finland is very much operating in a capitalism driven economy while still supplying its citizens socialism driven security.

                Capitalism is like fire. It’s a good tool, but a bad master. With appropriate legislative checks in place, it won’t get out of control.

                In the States it already has, but that doesn’t mean that capitalism is bad. Just that nobody was tending the fire.